Kickbacks: What Wedding Planners, Vendors and Clients Should Know

The other day I was talking to a wedding professional that had been contacted by a wedding planner.  The wedding planner wanted them to meet their client to discuss their product/service.  The wedding professional met with the client and later received a phone call from the wedding planner.  The planner asked “What will my commission be?” to which the wedding professional replied “Commission, what are you talking about?”  The planner replied, “Well, I referred the client to you and so I want to know what you will be paying me for the referral?  I “earn” a commission from all of the event professionals that I work with.”  Much to the wedding professional’s dismay, the wedding planner was NOT joking.  They wanted to get paid.  The wedding planner made it very clear that if the wedding professional did not pay them for the referral, their client would not be working with them.  The wedding professional was angry and shocked and decided not to work with the client or the wedding professional.  (YAY!  I was so proud of the wedding professional for standing up for what they believed in and not giving in to the planner!)

So in case you are unaware, here are the facts:

There are some wedding planners (and a lot more than I originally thought) that charge wedding professionals/vendors a fee for referring clients to them.  Here is usually how it works with these planners that accept a kickback (also often referred to as a commission or a referral fee):

1.  Client hires Wedding Planner. (For example, Client pays Wedding Planner $7000.)

2.  Wedding Planner refers Wedding Professional/Vendor to Client.  (Wedding Planner refers Client to Photographer, who they often refer for their events.)

3.  Client hires Wedding Professional.  (Client hires Photographer.)  Client may not (and usually does not) know that Wedding Planner accepts money from Wedding Professional for referring them.  It is either a flat fee or a percentage of the amount received by the Client. (Photographer pays Wedding Planner a fee of $500 for referring them.)

4.  Usually, the Wedding Professional will charge the Client a higher fee to cover the fee (the kickback) they have to pay to the Wedding Planner.  (Photographer charges Client $6500 instead of their “regular” package price of $6000.)

5.  Sometimes, as in this case, the Wedding Professional does not know about the kickback prior to meeting with the Client and quotes them their regular package price.  If the Client books them, they have to pay the fee out of their “own pocket.” (Photographer meets with Client and doesn’t know that Wedding Planner will demand a kickback so Photographer quotes the Client $6000, the regular package price.  Client books and now Wedding Planner demands that Photographer pay $500 to them for the referral.  Photographer now has to take $500 from the $6000 they received from Client and pay it to Wedding Planner and therefore, they only get $5500 from the sale.  Photographer has now cut into their profit from the sale.)

6.  Client pays more money to the Wedding Planner than has been divulged.  (Wedding Planner charges Client $7000 and most other local planners are charging $9000-10000.  Through the eyes of the Client, it looks as though the first planner is a lot less expensive.  Unfortunately, Wedding Planner charges the Client $7000 and then charges a total of $3000 to individual wedding professionals for referring them.  Client indirectly pays those fees too.  So, Client knowingly pays Wedding Planner $7000 and unknowingly pays Wedding Planner an additional $3000, which they believe they are paying to the wedding professionals for the product/service they are providing.)

Unfortunately, either A.)  Client pays more to cover the fee that Wedding Planner charges Wedding Professional for the referral or B.) Wedding Professional gets paid less than their set price because they have to pay a referral fee (that they were unaware of) to Wedding Planner.  It seems like a win, win scenario for Wedding Planner, but is Wedding Planner really looking out for the best interests of the Client?  NO!  So why not just charge $10000 to the Client (if that is the amount that Wedding Planner wants to bring in) and let Wedding Professional charge $6000 (or whatever their regular fees are) and then Client can make a educated decision (with everything out on the table) whether they value the Wedding Planner and Wedding Professional enough to pay their regular fees?

 

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15 comments


  • The ‘why not’ is that these planners are lazy or lack confidence to earn or justify their fees. It is a conflict of interest. Are they referring the vendor because they are a perfect match? Or because of the fee. Clients rightfully expect their planner to work in their (the client’s) best interest. It is dishonest and unethical no matter how they try to spin it.

    June 4, 2010
  • Thanks Isha for the response! We agree!!

    June 4, 2010
  • Not to mention the fact that the planner who takes kickbacks is now looking out for her own best interests and not that of her clients. Conflict of interest is right and downright unethical in my book.

    June 4, 2010
  • Over the years, we have worked with many professional planners that have required we give them a percentage of our gross sales from their referral. We have never raised our prices to make up the difference because our services are priced accordingly. I have never felt this was a bad business model for the planner as long as they are consistant and honest with their pricing. I could see why this is a very sticky subject though.

    My questions are, does the client need to know how the planner has their business model set up? Does the planner really hire a specific vendor beacuse they give a commision and not on performance? Do vendors really raise their prices when working with a specific planner that they have to give a commission to?

    I would hope that no matter how the planner is running their business, they always use vendors that make them look good, not based on pricing. Integrity and honesty are a big part of owning and running a business. I know we like working with those companies.

    June 4, 2010
  • Chandra Keel

    I think that there are planners and vendors that have set up their business this way and do it with honesty and integrity to their clients (as Dave said above). But, I think it’s the exception. Some professionals have been doing this for years, and it works for them.

    I find it hard to believe that when you’re set up to profit in this way that the financial gain to be had is not a major motivating factor (again, there are those exceptions). You’re putting yourself in a position for people, client or professional, to question your motive and honesty – not a great way to build a successful business. If you have to justify your means of profit then you might want to question its overall benefit.

    June 12, 2010
  • Elaina

    I recently have been doing research on starting up my own consulting business. “With the concept of receiving commisions”. I live in a small town where Brides don’t have the funds to hire wedding consultants and I know being in the industry how frustrating and time consuming it can be for a bride. I want to start this business as a service to all brides. This service would be free of charge up until a designated point for services and plan to earn my income from the vendors. I would only include vendors that I have worked with in the past and would represent my company in the best way. NOT DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THEY PAY ME. But in all of the articles that I am reading they really frown on this technique. What should I do? I would be starting this business with good intentions and hopefully a win win for both bride, vendors and myself….

    September 9, 2010
  • I’m not sure how common this is but we have always prided ourselves on an affordable flat fee that is offset by us giving any kickbacks directly to the Bride and Groom. If the photographer gives us a $300 referral (not all vendors do this btw) then we inform the photographer to add it to the clients bill as a line item labeled “Bridal Dove Referral Bonus”. If the vendor wanted to charge the client for our referral bonus we would not be working with that vendor unless the Bride and Groom insisted. Our clients sometime end up getting our services for free or at least at a drastically reduced price because of this.

    March 6, 2012
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    June 19, 2012
  • Isa

    It is a pretty accepted practice where I am at. However, it is NOT about deceiving a client with a seemingly lower fee. My fee is fine on its own, but if the client chooses to book with my recommended vendors, my vendors are happy to get the business, and practically insist upon giving me a referral fee. It truly is a win win for us – they get business, I get “unexpected” income and the bride has a one stop shop – IF she so chooses. My vendors are there to make it easier for her, but she is welcome to use whomever she wishes.

    November 26, 2012
  • Matt

    10k seems pretty steep for simply referring other reputable vendors. I would hope a lot more goes into the task of ‘wedding planners’, such a creating a theme, finding venues and florists and meal choices, bridal gowns and day of coordination.

    Per the example stated by the author, the Wedding Planner should have told the Vendor BEFORE they met the client what their fee was for referral. If they want more than 10 percent for referring, the vendor could assess if they wanted to deal with that. As for the Photographer getting referred without getting as much as a phone call before hand? That’s simply unprofessional to try to extort a fee because the coordinator was too lazy to call the Photographer ahead of time to expect the call. As a Professional DJ I have dealt with a couple photographers who refer me, (and of course want a commission for all the ‘work’ involved in referring someone of my caliber to make the event a success. And yet, they often feel “afraid” or ‘uncomfortable’ either asking the client if the vendor they recommended may call them, as well as incessantly forgetting to call the vendor to let them know client XYC ‘might’ be calling. That’s what I call a LAZY Referral. If you are going to refer a vendor, refer one that fits the client’s needs, and be professional about it. If you have been in this industry any length of time or done business with humans for any length of time, you realize people lose leads, they fail to follow through and occasionally need someone who follows up.

    December 28, 2012
  • I am a wedding coordinator & I do not do that at all to my clients. I go above & beyond for my clients & organize things for them sometimes that I am not even paid for.

    January 23, 2013
  • Here in BC, Canada, from what I understand from a professional wedding planner – in order for her to be part of a certain ‘wedding planner guild’ (I’m sorry, I don’t know the actual name) it is against regulations to accept kick backs. The best interest is that of the client – the bride and groom.

    February 14, 2013
  • Scott Hopkins

    The other thing that I’ve seen is planners who pick the other vendors for the client. The planner handles the contracts and payment, but unbeknownst to the client, the planner is marking up what the other vendors are charging.

    February 17, 2013
  • As a bride, I asked people point blank if they got paid for referrals. I would rather have a referral based on someone’s merits than their dollars.

    May 10, 2013
  • Brooke,
    We completely agree! Thanks for sharing!

    May 10, 2013

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